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fbonito
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developer not listed

Postby fbonito » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:32 pm

hello,

i want to develop a shangai gr3 film with developer Uncle Mort's Homebrew Neg Soup (http://www.foto-r3.com/uncle-morts-home ... litro.html, but the developer doesn't appear in the film chart, and the film doesn't appear in the developer chart...

the film information is:

Kodak D-76 Developer 8m 20°C / 68°F
Kodak D-76 1:1 14m 20°C / 68°F
Kodak D72 1:4 4m 20°C / 68°F
Kodak D23 12m 20°C / 68°F
Agfa Rodinal 1:50 15m 20°C / 68°F
Ilford ID11 8m 20°C / 68°F
1 + 15 (A) 5m 20°C / 68°F
1 + 31 (B) 7.5m 20°C / 68°F


the developer information is:

20ºC: Fuji NEOPAN ACROS 100 (5 min.),
NEOPAN 400 (12 min.);
ILFORD PAN F PLUS (5 min.).
FP4 PLUS (6 min.),
HP5 PLUS (11 min.);
KODAK TRI-X PAN (9 min.),
T-MAX 100 (8 min.),
T-MAX 400 (12 min.);
ROLLEI RPX100 (6 min.),
RPX400 (10 min.),
TONAL 100 (6.5 min.);
ARGENTI LSRF50 (8 min.),
APX100 (11.5 min.);
KENTMERE 100 (6 min.),
KENTMERE 400 (10 min.).


what can i do?
thanks


Keith Tapscott.
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Re: developer not listed

Postby Keith Tapscott. » Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:12 pm

The film is not well known and neither is the developer, so you are unlikely to get an answer to your question.
You will have to experiment to obtain a suitable development time. Sorry.

fbonito
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Re: developer not listed

Postby fbonito » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:26 am

i've made a cross search on the chart and came in to the conclusion that the developer PROMICROL share the same developing times of the UNCLE MORT'S listed films.

http://www.digitaltruth.com/devchart.ph ... mdc=Search

so i've tried the develop times indicated for shanghai film and it's ok.

should this work for other films?
does it makes sense?

thanks

Ornello
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Re: developer not listed

Postby Ornello » Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:39 pm

This is a joke posting, right?

fbonito
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Re: developer not listed

Postby fbonito » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:24 pm

Ornello wrote:This is a joke posting, right?
why are you saying that? this is not a joke...

fbonito
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Re: developer not listed

Postby fbonito » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:26 pm

i've made a reverse search on the develop times indicated by the developer, and came to the conclusion that it has the same times has the Promicrol developer, so in principle, i could use the Promicrol chart...

does this makes sense?

thanks

Ornello
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Re: developer not listed

Postby Ornello » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:31 am

fbonito wrote:
Ornello wrote:This is a joke posting, right?
why are you saying that? this is not a joke...
shangai gr3 film with developer Uncle Mort's Homebrew Neg Soup? Are you serious?

fbonito
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Re: developer not listed

Postby fbonito » Mon Jul 23, 2012 2:19 pm

Ornello wrote:
fbonito wrote:
Ornello wrote:This is a joke posting, right?
why are you saying that? this is not a joke...
shangai gr3 film with developer Uncle Mort's Homebrew Neg Soup? Are you serious?

yes i'm serious...

the developer is here : http://www.foto-r3.com/en/uncle-morts-h ... litro.html

i've already developed the film according with the times of the Promicrol chart... and here is the result.

with a yashica mat:

http://tiny.cc/fkywhw

with a holga:

http://tiny.cc/4kywhw

shangai gp3 + uncle mort's homebrew neg soup

1+14 6m 24ºC

do you still think it's a joke?

pentaxpete
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Re: developer not listed

Postby pentaxpete » Wed Jul 25, 2012 1:38 pm

Yes, your results are good -- but if it is a 'HOMEBREW SOUP' why is the FORMULA not publshed so we can make it up ourselves instead of having to go to a Spanish site and BUY it ?
Got COMPUTERISED and 'slightly Digitised Pentax K10D' but FILM STILL RULES !

Ornello
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Re: developer not listed

Postby Ornello » Wed Jul 25, 2012 3:08 pm

I wonder what the developing time is for Yashimoto YZYX cubic film in Aunt Jemima's pancake syrup. Any ideas?

fbonito
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Re: developer not listed

Postby fbonito » Wed Jul 25, 2012 6:03 pm

i think the name "HOMEBREW SOUP" is just the brand that this company created...

the company is called IDS independent darkroom supplier, i think it's a small company and they give funny names to their products

for example, the stop bath is Uncle Mort's Safe Stop ,the fixer is Uncle Mort's Lightning-Fast Fix and the paper developer is Uncle Mort's Super-Duper Paper Dev

so it's just the name...

my big question was not about this specific product, but how can i find the dev. times for other films not listed, and what i found was another developer that share the same times, so i used the chart for that developer, and that's it :-)

i also guess that in photo labs if someone could come with a bulk film loaded in a blank canister with no information the guy would have to use some kind of generic formula for safe develop the film

Ornello
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Re: developer not listed

Postby Ornello » Wed Jul 25, 2012 9:54 pm

Use Tri-X in D-76. It's more consistent and reliable.

repunante
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Re: developer not listed

Postby repunante » Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:59 pm

I have just finished a work session using Uncle Mort's kit and it looks to me that they are rebranded Champion products, being that "Homebrew" something quite close to Promicrol (even the plastic bottles of both products look quite similar).
Great products, by the way, I don't care if some people make fun of it.


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