The End Of Kodak?

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The End Of Kodak?

Postby Keith Tapscott. » Tue Jan 10, 2012 12:45 pm

From the Digital Truth blog page.

http://www.digitaltruth.com/blog/

I hope that Kodak will survive and continue making stills-camera films even though I rarely use their products.


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Re: The End Of Kodak?

Postby foolscape » Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:04 am

I use lots of their film and chemicals. You can't get anything like Xtol from any other company. I really don't want them to go away.

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Re: The End Of Kodak?

Postby Lowell Huff » Mon Jan 23, 2012 12:36 pm

Hello Foolscape:
As a manufacturer of black and white photo chemistry, please allow me to provide you with the information that others can and do make chemistry as good as or better than, does Kodak.
F.Y.I., Kodak chemistry is made by Champion Chemical.
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Re: The End Of Kodak?

Postby foolscape » Mon Jan 23, 2012 4:38 pm

Actually, I use Clayton chemicals as well. My exclusive paper fixer is AFC Fixer, and I use F76+ on occasion, as well as the CP Powder paper developer. The Kodak chems that I use are HC-110, Photo-Flo, Xtol, Dektol, Selectol Soft, Farmer's Reducer, and (ocasionally, when I'm not using just Acedic Acid & water) the Indicator Stop Bath. Do you have equivilents to these?

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Re: The End Of Kodak?

Postby Lowell Huff » Mon Jan 23, 2012 5:07 pm

yes we do. Not only do we make Stop Bath with ind, we also make ODORLESS FIXER and ODORLESS IND STOP BATH. We make our FILM RINSE ADDITIVE, it dilutes 1+200 for the photo group and 1+1500 & 1+3000 for the Cine customers. We make all the powder products as well.

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Re: The End Of Kodak?

Postby Keith Tapscott. » Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:28 am

Lowell Huff wrote:Hello Foolscape:
As a manufacturer of black and white photo chemistry, please allow me to provide you with the information that others can and do make chemistry as good as or better than, does Kodak.

F.Y.I., Kodak chemistry is made by Champion Chemical.
Lowell Huff
Clayton Chemical
I acknowledge that there are plenty of very good alternatives to Kodak B&W chemicals, but their films would be sorely missed by those who use them regularly, although I personally use Ilford films and papers.

Ilford Ilfotec-HC can replace HC-110 for those who like that sort of film developer and ID-11 can replace D-76. Kodak Xtol however, is somewhat unique in it's formulation.

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Re: The End Of Kodak?

Postby foolscape » Wed Jan 25, 2012 9:57 am

According to Kodak, their film division is still profitable.

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Re: The End Of Kodak?

Postby Ornello » Wed Jan 25, 2012 1:52 pm

foolscape wrote:According to Kodak, their film division is still profitable.

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That's the point. It's everything else that's the problem.

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Re: The End Of Kodak?

Postby Keith Tapscott. » Thu Jan 26, 2012 4:16 am

foolscape wrote:According to Kodak, their film division is still profitable.

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It's film manufacturing that's Kodak's strength. They entered the digital imaging market far too late to establish themselves.
It would indeed be a sad day if classic films like Tri-X (400TX) died out.

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Re: The End Of Kodak?

Postby Ornello » Thu Jan 26, 2012 2:45 pm

Keith Tapscott. wrote:
foolscape wrote:According to Kodak, their film division is still profitable.

--Gary
It's film manufacturing that's Kodak's strength. They entered the digital imaging market far too late to establish themselves.
It would indeed be a sad day if classic films like Tri-X (400TX) died out.

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/colum ... 9-15.shtml
It would be great if they go under; then maybe DuPont or some other company with some sanity will buy the remnants of the company up and continue and expand film offerings.

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Re: The End Of Kodak?

Postby foolscape » Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:21 pm

Ornello wrote:It would be great if they go under; then maybe DuPont or some other company with some sanity will buy the remnants of the company up and continue and expand film offerings.
Rochester, NY doesn't agree, and I'm not so sure about DuPont, either. They abandoned their photography business in the 1970s, and the DuPont heirs are anything but sane. No, Kodak just needs to spin off all the digital junk, and return to their core business. If they put some extra effort into it, they could help film regain some of its lost market share.

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Re: The End Of Kodak?

Postby Ornello » Sun Jan 29, 2012 3:08 pm

foolscape wrote:
Ornello wrote:It would be great if they go under; then maybe DuPont or some other company with some sanity will buy the remnants of the company up and continue and expand film offerings.
Rochester, NY doesn't agree, and I'm not so sure about DuPont, either. They abandoned their photography business in the 1970s, and the DuPont heirs are anything but sane. No, Kodak just needs to spin off all the digital junk, and return to their core business. If they put some extra effort into it, they could help film regain some of its lost market share.

--Gary
To me, DuPont has the best structure for such an acquisition. They could put their chemical know-how to work to add to Kodak's.


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